Now it can be revealed! After
some deliberation and argumentation these are the 9 most “avant garde” bands
associated with “punk rock” in my opinion.
1.
CRASS Total subversion, total anarchy, vegan
chaos, swearing, blasphemy, pay no more than 49p to hide from Reality Asylum
with Shaved Women and screaming babies. Best before 1984 but sadly even more
relevant today.
2.
THE POP GROUP We are time, deconstructed chaos,
reconstructed dub without the boring Jah Jah cannabis sunshine daydream
3.
THIS HEAT Never forget you have a choice,
intense prog rock in HEAVY disguise
4.
WIRE Accidentally invented hardcore punk,
intentionally invented dugga and too clever for their own good
5.
DOME Weird offshoot of WIRE with silly tube hats
mostly hated by “punks”
6.
THE FALL How old are the stars really? How can
you quantify destruction?
7.
MELT BANANA Teeny shiny hyper video chipmunk
core from Tokyo, Japan
8.
SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES Middle class girl
transforms herself into a walking singing work of art, and I’m hearing voices,
drop dead, she’s your little voodoo dolly, accidentally invented eighties Goth
scene
9.
PUBLIC IMAGE LIMITED First three albums only and
Lydon’s a buttery shithead these days, totally lost the plot after ripping off
Flipper
With the exception of The Fall. PIL and The Pop Group most
of these bands are mostly from middle class backgrounds as far as I know,
rather disproving a friend’s assertion that “the avant garde is working
class.” The “avant garde” has no class. Who should be number 10?
Later I wrote this in reaction to many suggestions, including that Throbbing Gristle and Pere Ubu should be on this list:
Later I wrote this in reaction to many suggestions, including that Throbbing Gristle and Pere Ubu should be on this list:
Well Mission
of Burma wouldn’t be in a “top ten” but if we expand this list to fifty or more
then they have to feature. Roger Miller has made much more experimental music
outside of Mission of Burma. The same would be true of Gang of Four, who no one
has mentioned yet! I think it would be an interesting exercise to try to expand
this list to a hundred bands, but maybe limit it to bands that came into
existence between 1975 and 1980. It probably makes sense to ditch the
hierarchical aspect as this is mostly too subjective. Throbbing Gristle should
certainly feature and would be a candidate for the no 1 slot in a hierarchy, I
was really just arguing for the sake of it. So should Pere Ubu, despite David
Thomas’ jaundiced view of “punk rock.” Even though I love a lot of the music, I
hate the term “punk” but it has a cultural and musical meaning that has
eclipsed its prison slang origin, in much the same way that “gay” is rarely
used to mean happy anymore. Another standard term I hate is “krautrock” which
is especially silly when applied to bands that aren’t German. In making Crass
the most “avant garde” band I wasn’t just thinking of their sound, but of their
politics and cultural impact. They and Throbbing Gristle both got bourgeois tory
scum agitated about their art and that makes them more “avant garde” than any
of the other bands. I also think that Siouxsie has had such a huge cultural
impact and that no matter how many poppier singles the Banshees made, they are
still more important to any historical narrative than relatively unknown noisier
or weirder sounding artists. If we looked at the so called “avant garde” of
“punk rock” then I can’t think of any bands who had more cultural impact than
Siouxsie, TG, Wire and Crass. All four created new musical genres, whether they
meant to or not. As far as I’m aware only Crass had the intention of
instigating and nurturing a scene (Anarcho-Punk) and this in itself makes them
more interesting to me. Actually their aims were probably far more ambitious
than that, and as far as I’m concerned they haven’t failed yet. They’d almost
found anarchy and peace when the system dropped its bomb. And in the ruins the
survivors start all over again. And that’s where Killing Joke stride in…
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